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ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES.
One world, all words.
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One world, all words

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:iconamongststars::iconamongststars:THE NEWS PROJECT:iconamongststars::iconamongststars:





Our fight was in dA's main page!
But they continue working. ACCESS TO news.deviantart.com/article/14… AND FAVE IT TOUCHING IN [ + ♥ ⌉

All Cultures: Pi (π) and Angelo Sotira.

      A few days ago our group -AllCultures- received the best of the news. Worried because an excessively anglophone staff which would maybe not understand our fair and enriching demand, we read in www.entrepreneur.com/article/2… that Angelo Sotira, spyed, CEO (Chief Executive Officer), Founder and alma mater of deviantArt, is actually working on dA's new version (the 8th) and... He was born in Greece!!
     We can't possibly think of any other language that could represent better the concepts of plurality, universality and respect which make our group's emblem.

     We dreamed that in this new version the module that holds the titles in our page could host any kind of character written within. Maybe eliminating the very own title in the link and generating access to the works simply via alphanumeric combinations or increasing the destined space to allow non English characters' Unicode HTML codes (something that, in the other hand, would always be good in the name of one's own creativity and descriptive need. Many times, the space for titles may look scarce, we always can look for alternatives, but it's important to entitle with freedom).
     We fully trust dA's technical team capability, we are aware of their solvency and we think "Everything is possible in the Net".

     Thanks to Angelo, it won't be necessary to explain to the US people once again the hetereogeneity of their own country. Indicating towards other deviants their European names may have been modified in Ellis Island not so many generations ago or, turning back, they will find wherever they are looking to other people of families hailing from any region of Europe, Africa, Asia or Hispanamerica who provided and provide their language and their culture to the reality of the country.
     It's the very essence of the USA since their own creation.

     Probably Angelo will be «Άγγελος» for his family and in his environment the language of Aeschylus, Plato or Homer (the real deal, not Matt Groening's fantastic alter ego; in the other hand most probably of European ancestry and with some "rare" letter in it primitive appeal: Gröning or Gröening) will be spoken. Who else better than Greek people, generator of what we know as "modern world", Arts protectors, creators of Philosophy and Democracy, first exhaustive studious of History, Geography, Physics, Mathematics, to exemplary the multiculturalism in their language and the richness of a respectful and interconnected world?

     The Greek people... Owners of a language that, together with Latin, continues to generate the etymological base of all the world's languages. The new words that science and progress generate adopt a Greek or Latin root in any language and it's been like that for centuries. Don't look for English roots, neither Normand, Saxon nor Celtic in "biology" or "biography", better notice the Greek words «βίος» bios, life; «λóγος» logos, study, etc. And it's like that for all languages with base in the Occidental romanized writing: biología, biologji, biologie, biologija, biologi, biologije, bioloogia, bioleg, bioloxía, biológia, bitheolaíochta, bioloģija, biologija, bijoloġija, biolojia, biyoloji... It also is the phonetic-etymological base for many other alphabets.

     What comes to my head is the most universal of the symbols, the only one used by absolutely all the 2.261 languages that count with writing system. The relationship between a circumference and it diameter, meaning, pi (π). Being honest, a number: 3'14159265..., present in all knowledge's orders: in Physics and Mathematics, in Geometry, in Drawing, in Design, in Art. Look for the farther language, the strangest writing system you can find and there you will find π. Among uncomprehensible characters, a familiar face.
     The most universal of all human writing symbols is also a forbidden character in deviantArt titles. Despite being part of the header of thousands of books and even movies and artworks, despite being part of our lives up to unsuspected extremes.

     We request dA's staff the maximum effort to improve our page enabling the space for titles of other languages in the name of cultural respect and creative freedom. Please, do convey our message to Angelo:
Άγγελε, μπορείς να μας βοηθήσεις;
Angele, boris na mas voithisis?
Angelo, can you help us?


:star::star::star:

AND OUR FIRST NEWS TOO. FAVE IT: news.deviantart.com/article/14…

My friends don't want to belong to deviantArt

A few days ago I invited some friends to join to dA's artistic community and I even sent them a lifetime Premium membership. All of them rejected my offer, with no exceptions. This ones are some of the replies:

:bulletblue: Your grace shalt forgive me. Several of my Exemplary Novels would be crippled: "La española inglesa", "El celoso extremeño", "El casamiento engañoso"... I also have a couple of projects in mind, but titles wouldn't even fit: "El ingenioso hidalgo don Quijote de la Mancha" and "Los trabajos de Persiles y Sigismunda". I'm sorry, your "artistic" association doesn't respect neither my language nor my creativity.

Sincerely Yours, Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra.

:bulletblue: As Miguel says, I have a couple of works with long titles: " La increíble y triste historia de la cándida Eréndira y de su abuela desalmada" and "Relato de un náufrago que estuvo diez días a la deriva en una balsa sin comer ni beber, que fue proclamado héroe de la patria, besado por las reinas de la belleza y hecho rico por la publicidad, y luego aborrecido por el gobierno y olvidado para siempre". I know, maybe I have gone too far with this last one, but I rather remain free. After all, almost none of my works would be valid in your strange club in the way I would desire to:
- "Diálogo del espejo"
- "Un día después del sábado"
- "Los funerales de la Mamá Grande"
- "Cien años de soledad"
- "El otoño del patriarca"
- "Crónica de una muerte anunciada"
- "El amor en los tiempos del cólera"
Just a few examples. Thanks, but no.
Gabriel García Márquez, 1982 Nobel Prize (altough I don't give myself importance)

:bulletblue: I'm sorry. My creativity is... too much large?
- "The Celebrated Jumping Frog of Calaveras County"
- "General Washington's Negro Body-Servant"
- "1601: Conversation, as it was by the Social Fireside, in the Time of the Tudors"
- "The £1,000,000 Bank Note and Other New Stories"
- "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court"
- "Personal Recollections of Joan of Arc"
- "Edmund Burke on Croker and Tammany"
- "The Man That Corrupted Hadleyburg"
And $ yes but £ not? Freedom, please, freedom...
Samuel Langhorn Clemens, a.k.a Mark Twain

:bulletblue: Obrigado. But there is no respect. What do I do with my creatures?
- "As Opiniões que o DL Teve"
- "Levantado do Chão"
- "História do Cerco de Lisboa"
- "As Intermitências da Morte"
- "Que Farei com Este Livro?"
- "As Pequenas Memórias"
José Saramago, 1998 Literature's Nöbel

:bulletblue: Obrigado. Como diz José, não:
- "Os Lusíadas"
- "Amor é fogo que arde sem se ver"
- "Eu cantarei o amor tão docemente"
- "Verdes são os campos"
- "Que me quereis, perpétuas saudades?"
- "Sobolos rios que vão"
Saúde. Luís de Camões

:bulletblue: Mesmo. Impossível:
- "Manual prático do vampirismo"
- "O demônio e a Srta. Prym"
- "O vencedor está só"
- "O Gênio e as Rosas"
- "A maçã"
Abraço. Paulo Coelho.

:bulletblue: Merci, no:
- "La Nausée"
- "Les Chemins de la liberté"
- "Les Séquestrés d'Altona"
- "Carnets de la drôle de guerre"
Jean Paul Sartre (J'ai refusé le prix Nobel de littérature en 1964 et refuse les Llama badges)


Strange characters? Ñ, Ç, Ø, Ę, Å, Ô, Ü, Dž, Э, Ş, ß, Á, È, &...π!
Complete list of forbbiden Occidental characters here: «All in HTML»
They are our culture. The universal culture.

English is just an intercultural communication vehicle. Art speaks 1000 languages.
deviantArt
must not restrict creative freedom, titles are important.

Join our group to request the maximum effort in order to change this situation.

dA will be better tomorrow. We all are deviantArt.

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Dear all:

This is an example of the signature I'm using in my devs' description. Feel free to use it so as more people would get involved in our cause.

You can go to this site and copy-paste the signature. The results are shown below.

Keep ya hands up!



Ahora en español... :winky:

Estimads:


Acá abajo hay un ejemplo de la firma que estoy usando en las descripciones de mis devs (de la cual espero alguien la lea y quiera saber más de qué consta el proyecto).

Para tener la firma completa sin tener que poner los códigos HTML, vayan a este link y denle un copiar-pegar. Acá abajo está el ejemplo de cómo se vería.

¡Sigamos así!



*Due to dA's policies, I'm not able to use any acute diacritic mark in the title section of any of my devs.

It is not an issue that just happens to me, but to all Spanish-speaking artists who would like to provide the name of their works in their mother tongue here in dA.

If you think that it might be an issue that attempts to freedom of speech (because diacritic marks do are part of non-English languages' speech, ya know), raise the awareness of your fellow artists by joining (and getting involved with) the #AllCultures project.

ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES


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:iconboomplz::iconboomplz:OUR NEWS CONTINUE WORKING!   :iconboomplz::iconboomplz:

HELP US SPREAD OUR MESSAGE.
GO TO THIS LINK AND FAVE IT BY PRESSING IN THE [ + ♥ ] ICON

You can see the solution to our problem(s) in this piece of News:

   The News page allows some "forbidden" characters to be used in general titles (e.g.: &, #, @ and !, among others). We carried out a few tests with the Greek symbol pi (π) and the system allows to write it.

   Web browsers (like Explorer, Mozilla, Chrome) do show the real title up in the tab, but the dA internal browser changes it for its hexagesimal code (π )... And yes, the dA browser is 10 years old... ;)
  
 In the other hand, the News section allows an input of 50 characters (great!) as a title and it doesn't need to use the title in the link. So, it's done!!!

   We want the general titles module to be as the News titles module and... Maybe a little upgrade to our old browser? (Why not?)

AND OUR FIRST NEWS GROUP IS LIVE TOO. GO TO THIS LINK AND FAVE IT.

ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES

:iconallcultures: :iconallcultures: :iconallcultures:
:star:AllCulturesChat:star:

Another way of contact: Ideas, suggestions, information... Or simply greet to your rebel friends.
Connect in «AllCulturesChat».

ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES
I'm ON




:star:AllCulturesChat:star:

Otra forma de contacto: Ideas, sugerencias, información... O simplemente saluda a tus amigos rebeldes.
Conéctate en «AllCulturesChat».

ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES
I'm ON
GALLERIES

   We've received some suggestions of deviations for the gallery that have nothing to do with the goal of this group - they can only be considered as "general art" and can desvirtuate our message. We don't like to say "NO" to everything. The deviations you can see are not done for the group, they are from the group. Their intention is to spread the message, promove affiliations and the debate on dA. That's why they are included in as many groups as possible. It's not for personal support.

So, what is the method? What can I do?

- If you do an artwork related to the problem, it is for spreading it to your watchers and inviting them to join the group. Look the examples. You can also submit it to other groups in order to gain members and then to #AllCultures. Please send us a note or a comment explaining it.

- Works about one specific language won't be useful. The solutions must be global. It won't work in any other way. We need all languages and all cultures.

- You can suggest as faves already submitted deviations in other groups in which you are usual members of. Every comment or fav will be answered with an invitation to the group. This is the work of a deviation in #AllCultures.

- It's very important to identify between us as members in order to avoid invitations to actual members of the group. So remember to put the I'm ON on the Tag Line.

- Help us to spread the message, invite your friends to join!

Greetings! :wave:

ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES :iconallcultures:




GALERÍAS

   Hemos recibido algunas sugerencias para las galerías que poco tienen que ver con nuestro grupo, sólo pueden ser consideradas como arte general y pueden desvirtuar nuestro mensaje. Nos sabe mal decir NO a todo. Las desviaciones que podéis ver no están hechas para el grupo, son del grupo. Su intención es difundir el mensaje, promover la afiliación y el debate en dA. Miran al exterior. Es por eso que se intentan difundir en cuantos grupos sea posible, no son de apoyo interno.

Así pues, ¿cuál es el método y qué puedo hacer?

— Si haces un trabajo relativo al problema, es para difundirlo entre tus watchers y animarles a unirse al grupo con un link, observad los ejemplos. También para subirlo a otros grupos y extender el mensaje. Más tarde se suben a #AllCultures como ejemplo de actividad. Indicadlo en una nota o en comments.

— Los trabajos sobre un idioma en particular restan razón al mensaje. La solución será global o no será. Necesitamos a todos los idiomas, todas las culturas.

— Podéis sugerir como favs las desviaciones ya subidas en los grupos en que trabajéis habitualmente. Cada comentario o fav será respondido con una invitación personal para unirse al grupo. Ese es el trabajo de una dev en #AllCultures.

— Es importante identificarnos como miembros para agilizar las invitaciones. Acordaros de poner el I'm ON en vuestra Tag Line.

— Ayudadnos a difundir el mensaje, invita a tus amigos a unirse.

Un saludo. :wave:

ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES. :iconallcultures:
BACKGROUND:

DEVIANTART'S STANCE

   The request for using other languages in deviations' titles (i.e. using characters such as Ñ, Ç, Ø, Ę, ß, Э, just to name a few) is not new at all. It may have been suggested quite a few times, and therefore, deviantArt considers it a common suggestion; they close forums where it is suggested, and redirect us to their former replies. See: «Common Suggestions».
There we will read:
deviantART translated in multiple languages.
"For as much as we all would like deviantART to be translated in our own language, we should remember that this website is based in the US, hence the reason why it's in English."
— That is, "everybody would like to have dA in their own language, but we're sorry, dA is based in USA and therefore it's in English."

Titles with more than 30 characters and also allowing special characters in them.
"This one is really common, especially the request of using characters like "ü à é ç ! ?". The main reason is that people would like to be able to write titles in their own languages and from time to time foreigners languages use accents on letters and other special characters."
— That is, "if we start making the use of new characters possible, everybody will want to use their mothertongue's accents and special character sets."

   Not even dA is too respectful with it's mothertongue. In educated English, we find latin forms of which deviantArt does not supports their usage; for instance, the ampersand (&), and the ligatures "œ" and "æ" (as in "Encyclopædia Britannica"). This means they could afford including other characters if they wanted.

   These responses, not justifying, are several years old. English users probably made up the majority, and the staff was busy resolving design issues and improving the interface or performance.
   Nowadays, English users do not make up the majority, and there is a natural tendency for them to represent a lesser percentage -in terms of number of users- each day. deviantArt has become global and can be safely considered some "finished product", i.e. it is running and receives praising everywhere, so that only small modifications are made from time to time. Additionally, they sould understand that the USA has been a multilingual country by excelence since is very creation. For such, especially now, those responses are anachronous and they suggest unconcern and disregard.

   If had someone in the staff responded "We're working on it", we wouldn't be talking about any of this. Please check a personal appeal in November 2010: «Titles and creative freedom».
   The thread was closed 15 minutes later, without even permitting other users' replies. Is it not a forum? The one responsible of its management is also a user and has those orders, it never reaches the staff through the forum and it does not permit sharing points of view. When asking that user for an explanation, he would delete the messages as "spam".

   Here you have another of our friend Yoberog in January 2009: «I want to use special symbols in deviations titles». This thread was open... One year! Another times... Today is impossible. You can read here technical discussions and solutions.

TECHNICAL ISSUES?

   —We have discussed on multiple occasions about the way to "open" the deviaton titles to other languages: If it were techinically complicated, if it were possible, if we used HTML code, if an Ñ o Ç could be part of a hyperlink, if Unicode would made it possible... deviantArt has not alleged any technical problems for its execution, actually, when specifically addressing the titles' issue, they are suggestive of the possibility to add a few characters if they wanted to. They have simply not considered it seriously. The staff is anglophone at almost 100%. Here they are: :iconhq:

   - This one is deviantArt's 7th version in 10 years, and its technical staff is top quality. Take a look at its evolution: «History of dA».

   - Nothing is impossible on the Net. Everything can be achieved sooner or later, as a matter of will.

IMPOSSIBLE?

   Not taking into acccount excessive technical considerations (we are in no way especialists); only the staff know in depth the system on which dA runs with all its peculiarities. Take a look into some details of the history of Internet...
- The Internet was created in USA and with the character codes that English language required (called US-ASCII). The alphabet for English is the most limited of all variations of the Roman alphabet; it will be found short when one tries to write in other languages with the former (English alphabet). What in start was logical (additionally for ease of use), cannot be considered a goal anymore.

   - The Internet was massified during the mid 90s, but it was not until October 2007 when ASCII modified its system (basically changing from 7 to 8 bits) to enable the inclusion of Ñ and Ç, and other "strange" characters of foreign occidental languages in the address bar. It was not a consequence of a will for improvement, but the governments of different affected countries made pressure during years; until then, the response was "it is impossible". They would also take into account the economical possibilities of this expansion, of course. The cases of incompatibility with browsers or navigators, etc. have been gradually resolved.

   - Late 2009 year, an international comission (ICANN - Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), sponsored by the UN, removed the US government from control and included non roman characters in web addresses and domains.

   We can see that it is a matter of will. What is not, will be. Was was simple a matter of system control, should become now a matter of cultural respect and universality, in each browser and website.

   We are demanding deviantArt's greatest effort to have its technical staff work in making better this our (everybody's) site. We want them to understand that, even though English is our language for cultural exchange, a site for Art cannot be limited by English, for this is not simply a social network. In our individual doing, we do not think in English. Our creativity cannot be limited by English; titles are indeed important.

   We need to get to the staff and ask for this effort energetically; it will only be possible as we unite and do it in the name of everybody.

ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES.
— Help to spread our message between friends and watchers.
— Identify yourself: I'm ON.
— Comment and participate.

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   La petición de utilizar otros lenguajes en los títulos (unos por su Ñ, otros por su Ç y unos pocos en nombre de todos) no es nada nuevo. Se habrá sugerido cientos de veces y, por eso mismo, deviantArt lo considera una sugerencia común, cierra los foros donde se propone y nos remite a sus respuestas anteriores. Ver: «Common Suggestions»
Ahí podemos leer:
deviantART translated in multiple languages.
     «For as much as we all would like deviantART to be translated in our own language, we should remember that this website is based in the US, hence the reason why it's in English.»
     — Es decir, "a todo el mundo le gustaría tener dA en su idioma pero lo sentimos, esto se basa en los USA y por ello es en inglés."

Titles with more than 30 characters and also allowing special characters in them.
     «This one is really common, especially the request of using characters like "ü à é ç ! ?". The main reason is that people would like to be able to write titles in their own languages and from time to time foreigners languages use accents on letters and other special characters.»
     — Es decir, "si incluímos algún nuevo carácter, todo el mundo querría usar sus idiomas extranjeros y sus acentos y letras especiales".

   — Incluso dA no es demasiado respetuoso con su idioma matriz. En el inglés culto se utilizan formas latinas que deviantArt no permite utilizar; es el caso de la "et" (&) o "amperstand" en inglés y las ligaduras "œ" y "æ", recordad la Encyclopædia Britannica. Aquí parecen indicar que podrían incluir otros caracteres si lo desearan.
   Estas respuestas, aunque no les excusa, datan de varios años atrás. Probablemente los usuarios USA eran la generalidad y el staff estaba más preocupado en resolver cuestiones de diseño y mejora de interfaz, visualización o funcionamiento.

   En la actualidad, los usuarios exclusivamente anglófonos no son mayoría, y la tendencia natural es que tengan menor peso -en número de usuarios- cada día, dA se ha universalizado. Así mismo, deviantArt es un producto "acabado", es decir, tiene un funcionamiento general que ha recibido elogios de todas partes, así que sólo recibe "pequeños retoques" cada cierto tiempo. Incluso, deberían entender que los USA es un país bilingüe y plurilingüe por excelencia, desde su misma creación. Por todo ello, especialmente ahora, esas respuestas son anacrónicas e indican una cierta despreocupación o desprecio.

   Si en algún momento el staff hubiera respondido "We're working on it", no estaríamos hablando de nada de esto. Observad una sugerencia a título individual en Noviembre de 2010: «Titles and creative freedom».
   El hilo fue cerrado a los 15 minutos, sin apenas posibilitar adhesiones o respuestas de otros usuarios, ¿no se trata acaso de un Foro?. El encargado de gestionarlo es también un usuario-colaborador y tiene esas órdenes, nunca se llega al staff mediante el foro y no permiten intercambiar pareceres. Requerido el encargado en su propia cuenta para dar explicaciones, borraba los mensajes como "spam"...

   Aquí podemos ver otra sugerencia de nuestro compañero Yoberog en Enero de 2009: «I want to use special symbols in deviations titles». El hilo estuvo abierto durante... ¡un año! Otros tiempos... Ahora es imposible. Ahí podemos leer discusiones técnicas y también soluciones.


¿PROBLEMAS TECNICOS?

   — Hemos discutido en múltiples ocasiones sobre la forma de "abrir" los títulos a otros lenguajes: Si es complicado técnicamente, si es imposible, si utilizando los códigos HTML, si una Ñ o Ç no puede formar parte de un link, si con Unicode sería posible... Lo cierto es que deviantArt no alega problema técnico alguno para su implantación e, incluso, en la respuesta específica de los títulos, dejan entrever que podrían añadir caracteres si así lo desearan. Simplemente, no contemplan esa posibilidad, el staff es anglófono casi al 100%.
Aquí los tenéis: :iconhq:

   — Esta que vemos es la 7ª versión de deviantArt en 10 años, y su equipo técnico es de primerísimo orden. Observad su evolución: «History of dA».

   — Nada es imposible en la Red. Todo vendrá tarde o temprano, es cuestión de voluntad.


¿IMPOSIBLE?

   Sin entrar en excesivas consideraciones técnicas que, ni somos especialistas, ni podemos valorar; ya que nadie -salvo ellos- conocen el sistema real en el que se mueve deviantArt y sus peculiaridades, debemos observar algunos detalles generales de la historia de la Red:
— Internet fue creado en USA y con los códigos de caracteres que ellos necesitaban, el denominado US-ASCII. El alfabeto inglés es el más limitado (26 caracteres) de todos los alfabetos romanos, todos los demás tienen carencias de mayor o menor importancia con él. Lo que en su creación tiene su lógica por motivos de sencillez de funcionamiento, no puede considerarse una meta.

— La Red se masificó a mediados de los 90, pero no fue hasta Octubre de 2007 cuando ASCII modificó su sistema, simplemente, pasándolo de 7 a 8 bits, para permitir la inclusión de la Ñ, Ç y otros caracteres "raros" del alfabeto Occidental o romano en la barra de direcciones. Y no fue consecuencia de una voluntad de mejora, los propios gobiernos de diferentes países afectados presionaron durante años. Hasta entonces, la respuesta era que "es imposible". También valorarían las posibilidades económicas de su ampliación, claro. Los casos de incompatibilidad con los navegadores, etc. se han ido resolviendo.

— A finales de 2009, una comisión internacional (ICANN, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), auspiciada por ONU, retiró el control al gobierno USA e incluyó los caracteres no romanos en las direcciones o dominios de la Red.

   Así pues, todo es cuestión de voluntad. Lo que no está, estará. Lo que era una simple cuestión de control del Sistema, debe convertirse ahora en una cuestión de respeto cultural y universal, en cada navegador, en cada Web Site.

   Lo que solicitamos es el máximo esfuerzo por parte de dA para que su equipo técnico trabaje en mejorar realmente nuestra página. Queremos que entiendan que, pese a que el inglés es nuestro idioma de contacto intercultural, una página de arte no puede verse limitada por él, esto no es una simple Red Social. En nuestro trabajo individual no pensamos en inglés, nuestra creatividad no puede verse limitada por él, y los títulos son importantes.

   Debemos llegar al staff y solicitar ese esfuerzo con energía, y sólo será posible si nos unimos y lo hacemos en nombre de todos.

ALL LANGUAGES, ALL CULTURES.
— Ayudadnos a propagar el mensaje. Invitad a vuestros amigos al grupo.
— Es importante identificarnos fácilmente: I'm ON. Echadle imaginación si queréis personalizarlo.
— Comentad y participad. Gracias a KaYin91 por la traducción, debemos llegar a todos los rincones de deviantArt.

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Notecja Jun 17, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Anyone is still there? No one frustrated with new journal system? Why is there so silent?
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Morrissex Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Hello NotkaPL. I haven't tried the new journal system yet. What are the changes the dA's team has implemented? I am not aware of them.
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were is car folder?
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Morrissex Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Hey there, drivercompany. Car folder? What do you mean?
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:iconmik-68:
Well. Some good idea to protest?
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so im the 1.001th member..:)
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KatiesLastSong Nov 6, 2012  Student Photographer
congrats! :D
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farand Sep 26, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Thanks for affiliating with :iconinternationalfaq: !
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:iconmik-68:
You (and yours) are welcome
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VictorPaiam Sep 23, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Todo lo que hace el yoberog tiene menos estabilidad que su cocina al final del día
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